The last thing we need is a new truckload of FF7 fan boys... No, I take that back, FFX fan boys are worse, those are the last things we need.

Great gameplay, epic story, some annoying but overall good voice actors, fantastic battle system, challenging, and whether some may think otherwise, it had the greatest power up system ever, THE SPHERE GRID. No matter what anyone says, FF10 was the best FF game (Although FF12 comes close.)

Great gameplay, epic story, some annoying but overall good voice actors, fantastic battle system, challenging, and whether some may think otherwise, it had the greatest power up system ever, THE SPHERE GRID. No matter what anyone says, FF10 was the best FF game (Although FF12 comes close.)

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Define gameplay. And if it's how you move, get into battles, etc., then shut up about it, because it's exactly the same as the other ones. The story was not epic. Not even close. The only thing i liked about it was... okay nevermind, look it sucked. and then i think my friend was telling me about how Tidus's whole life turned out to be just a dream? [Expletive Deleted] man, things couldn't be more stupid. The voice actors. ugh. Tidus's reminded me of a fag. He was a lot better on Ratchet. And boy, do I think otherwise of that retarded sphere grid. And don't say a stupid generic and unoriginal answer of "because you don't know how to use it" because I do and that's that. It was annoying and stupid. FF9's was the best, because you stuck items on them and battled enough to learn it. Sweet, simple, and awesome. No matter what anyone says, FF10 could not even come close to the epic magnificence of FF7, FF9, FF6, etc. and was the worst piece of [Expletive Deleted], deeming it most unworthy of being named a Final Fantasy (except for Final Fantasy X-2).

EDIT: oh and the battle system? it was the same as all the others, if you hadn't noticed. the only upgrade was that you could switch people, which i did like. but they didn't even get multiplayer in, which they did in FF9, so they even had a downgrade.

Okay, you asked for it. Final Fantasy X is one of the worst video GAMES ever made. More than that, it's downright offensive and insulting to the video game industry. Squaresoft can never be forgiven for creating such an abomination. I didn't think it was possible for me to hate a video game this much, but Squaresoft has managed to undermine all of my expectations. This game makes Final Fantasy VIII look like the greatest RPG ever made, not to mention the greatest story ever told. Now, the fact that I consider FF8 a major disappointment can offer you an idea of just how much I absolutely despise FF10. This pompous pile of vomitous, self-indulgent trash was incoherent, juvenile and pathetic. Full of ridiculous dialogue and scenes that went nowhere, this was quite simply *the worst*. Fifty FMV hours of Tidus and Yuna trying to fart the Star-Spangled Banner wouldn't be any more revolting, IMHO. Why the hell do we keep putting up with Squaresoft's childish symbolism and ridiculous writing, anyway? I guess it's because we are RPG fans, or as we should be more properly known, Squaresoft's sodomites. The "Sin" of this game is that I'd rather stab my eyes with sharp pencils than spend one second watching any of the cinema scenes from Final Fantasy X again.

Now, for an in-depth analysis:

1. The characters and storyline were absolutely laughable. Tidus, the *NSYNC reject, is interrupted from his water polo tournament because he has to travel 1000 years into the future to save the world. The whole "let's stop a supervillain from destroying the planet" plotline wasn't what brought down FF10's story, though. Yes, it was bland, repetitious and tiresome, full of random, scattershot scenes and cryptic pronouncements about the weight of the events that are unfolding (or unravelling, if you ask me.) It also featured the usual hit parade of characters that Squaresoft always likes to trundle out and make jump through hoops during the course of their Final Fantasy titles. You've got Tidus, who is *I guess* supposed to make the girls swoon over his Abercrombie & Fitch looks, but as soon as he opens his mouth, disaster strikes. Featuring a whiny, annoying voice that should not under any circumstances belong to the main hero of a FF game, Tidus is a downright pathetic character. Of course, all of the pop-crazed teens who watch TRL every afternoon must adore this guy. Yuna, Wakka, and the other forgettable cast members are all repulsive stereotypes. I've never seen such a pack of unlikable losers assembled in one video game. And imagine my disgust when I discover that they all remain the same throughout the entire game! The voice acting is atrocious, and brings down almost every cinema scene in the game. The dialogue only discusses the most essential aspects of the game, so you're left trying to cover your ears while you try and figure out where the story isn't going to go. The script is absolute garbage. Squaresoft seemed to be more interested in showing off the bad voice acting then trying to make the characters act and talk like real people. There's no room for thoughts, jokes, feelings, memories, or revelations. In short, there's no room for character development. The script has been sacrificed so that the character can be enveloped in a "cinematic experience", yet there's no "experience" at all. The plot moves by at such a slow pace and never picks up. Since it isn't the slightest bit interesting or surprising, this means that boredom is sure to ensue.

2. The game's success and popularity rides on three things: hype, name recognition, and graphics. Practically any RPG fan will play this game because it's got the words "Final Fantasy" on the box! "And say, don't those graphics look great! Never mind that the rest of the GAMES blows huge whale butt, I want to stare at the screen for hours!" Well, I'd prefer not to play a game that involves me watching a cinema scene every five minutes. That in turn means that the characters are going to talk, which gets me pissed off all over again. So, every time I think that this game isn't *that* bad, I have to watch another CGI sequence involving Tedius...erm, Tidus...and the rest of his friends. This wasn't a story or a game, it was an interactive movie with a bunch of lame spoken-dialogue strung together by using a vague, psuedo-religious smog-and-mirrors plot.

3. Speaking of the plot, Squaresoft's wretched religious symbolism has never been more obvious or juvenile. The evil enemy called 'Sin', the natural disasters, the chosen one who can bring about world peace - Monica Lewinsky with her skirt up and her thumb in her thong was more subtle. It is phenomenal that a game can fail on so many levels. The script was abominable and it dragged down and defiled every other aspect of the game. The writers seemed clueless as to how each scene should be played, or else embarrassed by the utter garbage they were having to promote through their dialogue. And all this rambling Bible-rip-off bilge climaxed with...nothing. Tidus and Yuna and are left alive and unmolested as a prayer song arrives, destroying Sin and saving the world from the greatest evil the universe has ever known. What nonsense. It vaguely resembles the end of EarthBound, but while *that* was an excellent, compelling game, this pile of crap just seems offensive to any denomination of Christianity. Sin would have killed 'em ALL, because even if all of these people 'atoned for their sins', they would never be able to challenge the power of an unstoppable evil entity. This game had no logic whatsoever, and its plot was completely idiotic.

Finally, the game is just plain boring. All of the elements of gameplay that made the previous Final Fantasies enjoyable have been taken away, the battle system is moronic at best, there is no world map, the game is totally linear, and the music is *awful* (Uematsu is the ONLY actual talent left working for Squaresoft, and even he has been poisoned by the culture of mediocrity). Is there anything good about this game? Well, at least someone figured out that being able to use all of your party members during a battle is a good thing. Other than that shruggable innovation, Final Fantasy X is completely devoid of ANY good merits.

The following review from Amazon.com also sums up my feelings rather nicely:

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Why does Square think we don't want to have fun?

Honestly. The company turned a corner with FF7, deciding to concentrate on realism to the exclusion of entertainment value. Well, they haven't achieved realism by any measure (the graphics are still unexpressive and the voice acting wooden), their stories have become incomprehensible (FFX isn't much better than Xenogears or FFTactics), and the characters just about dare you to enjoy their company. Who in this game is supposed to be likeable? Or cool? Or sexy, even?

It's hard to say. I would love a complex and subtle RPG, but you cannot afford to be subtle unless you first know how not to be *lifeless*, which Square apparently does not. The full voicing completes the process of draining the characters of energy, making them sound even dumber than they look and act. FFX is a huge chess game where you don't know the players and don't understand the rules...and *never* figure it out.

This installment also takes away the world map, meaning that you have just about no choice in what section to play -- were any of us clamoring for this change? No. Nor did we care to lose the method of running from battles that dates back to the SNES; the encounter rate is ridiculous and getting out of battles is *hard*. Other demerits -- the music is Uematsu's worst effort to date (exactly one memorable tune, and it's not even a cool one), weapons and armor are incredibly hard to upgrade, and dungeons are tough to navigate even with an onscreen map.

The pluses -- blitzball is a terrific minigame and it's great to be able to use the entire party in a single battle (something I've wanted for years). That's about it. This is a game from which you should stay far, far away...even if you, like me, started playing the FF series with the first game.

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You assumed I said it had 'better' gameplay compared to previous titles, but I didn't say that. I stated the points in the game which made it an excellent game in itself. gameplay would obviously be the same as they are in every game compared to another. Being the first FF game I got into seriously (Having played FF7 and FF8 beforehand, but not completing) the story was amazing, and having worked myself backward through the titles, it got very repetetive, but Square cocked up on that long before FF10, and they will continue to do so. Having varying it slightly, they got constant positive reviews from title to title, but you (and whoever else) noticed it in FF10 first for some reason. I think, wait scratch that, I KNOW it is because of fanboys you made your opinion what it is, and that isn't fair. Sphere grid was cool to me, and beat the hell out of some of their other ideas. First game on PS2, so obviously it'd get some fanboys due to it's great graphics (At the time) but after ignoring them for whatever reason they have, FF10 is no worse than any other FF game. The only thing you can say which is fact is...wait...you tell me, seriously. If they improved nothing but graphics and a few variations in the story and battles, then it won me over, because as I worked through the GAMES, I didn't not enjoy any FF game. I even loved FFX-2, but that is another debate which I'm tired of arguing. Opinion is opinion, and I don't think I can alter other's with my own. FF10 > FF12 > Everything else.

You assumed I said it had 'better' gameplay compared to previous titles, but I didn't say that. I stated the points in the game which made it an excellent game in itself. gameplay would obviously be the same as they are in every game compared to another.

That's a horrible argument because you were stating why FF10 was better than FF7 and FF9. Of course you were saying that it had a better gameplay in comparison to the other ones, otherwise you wouldn't have used it in this debate at all.

Being the first FF game I got into seriously (Having played FF7 and FF8 beforehand, but not completing) the story was amazing, and having worked myself backward through the titles, it got very repetetive, but Square cocked up on that long before FF10, and they will continue to do so.

The story is mostly opinion, but if you honestly think about it, it cannot be compared to the others. You say that it's the first FF game you got truly into. I bet you could barely even comprehend what the stories were for FF7 and FF8 because they were so amazingly complex, whereas in the FF10 one, things were just thrown out to you. Square just made things easier to understand for people who just couldn't seem to understand why the FF7 storyline got the highest reviews than any other game of its time. They realized that their players may not be up to that task.

Having varying it slightly, they got constant positive reviews from title to title, but you (and whoever else) noticed it in FF10 first for some reason. I think, wait scratch that, I KNOW it is because of fanboys you made your opinion what it is, and that isn't fair.

Now this is an illogical fallacy that refuses to die. I'm not even going to go in-depth on what my opinion of FF10 was based upon because I've constantly reiterated it in every single argument I've had about it. All I'm going to say is think about it, if I hated GAMES where they were a lot of fanboys clogging up the reviews for it, why am I advocating Final Fantasy 7? And God forbid you say that FF10 has more fanboys than FF7 because that will never ever happen.

Sphere grid was cool to me, and beat the hell out of some of their other ideas.

Explain.

First game on PS2, so obviously it'd get some fanboys due to it's great graphics (At the time) but after ignoring them for whatever reason they have, FF10 is no worse than any other FF game. The only thing you can say which is fact is...wait...you tell me, seriously.

And after realizing that there are reasons such as boring storyline, stupid sphere grid, lack of multiplayer, etc., you should realize that yes, FF10 is worse than other FF GAMES. In fact, the only FF game I can honestly say it's better than is X-2.


If they improved nothing but graphics and a few variations in the story and battles, then it won me over,
And this is why no one but wakka takes your arguments in consideration for anything.

because as I worked through the GAMES, I didn't not enjoy any FF game. I even loved FFX-2,

This is another reason why no one but wakka takes your arguments in consideration for anything.

but that is another debate which I'm tired of arguing.

And I'm not.

Opinion is opinion...FF10 > FF12 > Everything else.

..............I hope you saw what you just did there.

And if it didn't have 'Final Fantasy' in the title, then many of the people who hate the game would have enjoyed it, because they wouldn't expect it to be significantly better than FF9 and it's namely prequels.

Yuna, Wakka, and the other forgettable cast members are all repulsive stereotypes. I've never seen such a pack of unlikable losers assembled in one video game. And imagine my disgust when I discover that they all remain the same throughout the entire game! The voice acting is atrocious, and brings down almost every cinema scene in the game.

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You're basically saying that people who hate the game hate it because it wasn't significantly better than FF9 and its namely prequels. And I'd have to agree with you. Better to them. Again, I'm defending FFX in terms of being a bad game. Whether or not it is the best (Or whichever one anybody calls the best) is all down to a matter of opinion. So these debates are pointless. From my simple opinionated statement, we have come to a wall of text.