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Help my character suck less.

 

 


Jindrak
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Jun 27, 2008, 2:10 PM

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So I've been [Expletive Deleted]ing around with my professions until I've reached the point where a)Training tailoring anymore is going to be annoying expensive for my level and b) I can now make and disenchant things which I cannot even wear. Upon realizing this, I also realized that the gear I am wearing has not been changed in, forever, the last new additions were my weapons which I got on a run through Zul'Farrak.
Needless to say, I need new armor, possibly weapons too but they seem to work fine. Here is my character.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Trollbane&n=Xeros
I need ideas on what dungeon to farm, though I'm focusing on Maraudon for the moment (4 runs, not a single drop of mail armor :().
If you know of any good quest items that would be good, shout out a quest, or just [Expletive Deleted] I should buy that isn't too expensive (Have like 50g right now lol).

edit: And this is my first time using wowarmory and I just found the "Find an upgrade button." Fuck. oh well, criticize my character now.


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Loads O Fire
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Jun 27, 2008, 2:29 PM

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Eh your gears pretty good. When I level I tend to use the same gear for way too long (I have a level 19 ring on my 60 warrior right now...). While leveling as a melee class, all you really need are good weapons. The stats on the armor help, but barely, at least not until outlands.

As a enhancement shaman go for the following, in order: Strength, Stamina, Agility, Crit rating, Hit rating, AP.

1 AP = 1 AP obviously
1 Str = 2 AP

So if the AP on an item is more than double the strength on another item, the item with AP is better.

Intellect in my opinion is garbage just stack enough to make it through a few fights before going oom, and spirit is absolutely useless (Not kidding, its useless unless you're a priest).

Oh one more thing, the most important thing for enhancement shamans: The slower the weapon is, the better is it for you. Theres a lot of theorycraft behind it, which I don't feel like explaining. Don't listen to ANYONE that says a fast offhand is best, its only best for rogues.


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Jindrak
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Jun 27, 2008, 2:42 PM

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Yeah, I asked my friend if ___ weapon was good, he asked if it was faster than my current weapon, I told him yes, and he told me quote "Then no it fucking isn't." I only really stack up intellect on my healing gear (I've been asked so many times to act as the healer I decided to make a set, plus I kept getting cloth drops).


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jamman
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Jun 27, 2008, 5:14 PM

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It's not the speed of the weapon you should be worrying about, it's the max damage. As a shaman, max damage is what you want on your weapon, regardless of DPS.

And also, screw instances. You'll level much faster solo.

The warrior's almost 65 now, yay.


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Jun 27, 2008, 5:25 PM

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(Not kidding, its useless unless you're a priest).


OR A DRUID. You should know this.


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Jindrak
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Jun 28, 2008, 3:08 AM

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Instances are more fun.
<slap>


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Loads O Fire
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Jun 28, 2008, 3:15 AM

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(Not kidding, its useless unless you're a priest).


OR A DRUID. You should know this.


What kind of monster would level as a resto druid?


Loads O Fire
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Jun 28, 2008, 3:24 AM

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It's not the speed of the weapon you should be worrying about, it's the max damage. As a shaman, max damage is what you want on your weapon, regardless of DPS.


Actually, weapon speed is what you should be worrying about as a shaman. A lot of people don't think it does, because the theorycraft behind it gets pretty complicated.

The reason you use slow weapons, isn't because of stormstrike (Which many people think is the reason), its because of WF. Windfury has a 3.0 second cooldown (Which most people don't know, so they stack fast weapons to make it proc more often). With a 3.0 second cooldown, dual-wielding, getting flurry procs, it should be proccing every 3 seconds regardless of what weapon speed you are using. If you are using two slow weapons, your windfury is going to proc just as often as two fast weapons, and two slow will deal much more damage.

Of course, two slow help with stormstrike, but 80% of a shamans DPS comes from white attacks, and WF procs, so its important to be using the right speed of weapons.

For example:

92.7 DPS offhand with 1.7s attack speed, will be less DPS for an enhancement shaman than a 78.6 DPS 3.0 offhand.

Oh and something else I forgot. Slow weapons are best for anything that uses flurry (Warrior, shaman), the reason is because 25% faster attack speed effects a 3.0 second weapon more than it does a 1.8. At 70, flurry should ALWAYS be up, on my 61 fury warrior, its always up.

Its easy to argue that a faster weapon, with more DPS is of course better than a slow one with less DPS, but the fact is, its wrong. PreBC when WF didn't have a cooldown, that would have been true. The faster the weapon, the better. Windfury used to proc off of windfury.



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Weapon Speed Interaction
Weapon Speeds play an important role in maximizing DPS from Windfury procs. The goal is to chain WF procs every 3 seconds, as soon as each cooldown ends. Both the OH and the MH need to be as slow as possible to achieve this(they do not need to be matched in speed, just as slow as you can get it). The idea is to reduce the number of swings made during the time that windfury is on cooldown. Since the cooldown is 3 seconds, weapons speeds are preferred to be close to that speed, generally this means 2.6 - 2.8 under current itemization. The idea is that a faster weapon would proc a WF, and then strike again within the cooldown window, which means that windfury would exit cooldown and your weapon would still be on some significant portion of its swing timer, unable to proc another WF.

Many shaman will correctly use a slow MH weapon but use a fast OH such as a dagger, generally because its easier to find fast OHs than slow ones. This combination however means that your OH is much more likely to be the first one to hit outside of a WF cooldown and will "steal" the potential chance to proc, placing your main hand on lockdown. In order to maximize the potential for MH procs the OH needs to be as slow as possible.


^From http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t20765-shaman_enhancement/


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jamman
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Jun 28, 2008, 5:33 AM

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I know theorycraft. A raider would know. I thought you knew I was a raider. Whatever.

I suppose you're right about this one though. Haven't done my shaman research.

Except for the part where you said warriors need slower weapons. Not necessarily true. At all.


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Loads O Fire
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Jun 28, 2008, 7:16 AM

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For whirlwind, and makes flurry more effective.

Slower weapons aren't nearly as important for warriors, but they're still overall better. Fast weapons are nice for rage generation, but once you hit 70, you shouldn't have any rage generation issues.

For prot, fast weapons are the best.


(This post was edited by Loads O Fire on Jun 28, 2008, 7:30 AM)

 
 
 


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