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Which Operating System overall is better?

 

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Poll: Which Operating System overall is better?
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Del
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Aug 26, 2004, 10:25 PM

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Which OS do you think is better? I prefer Windows because it's easier to use, and is more compatiable with other software, but Linux is less prone to crashing, more secure and is cheap.



zident464
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Aug 27, 2004, 12:07 AM

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Windows for me


Jakestah
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Aug 28, 2004, 6:24 AM

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Yea thats why i like linux. Windows xp FREEzes up WAAAAAAAAAAY to much for me.


agent_jookia
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Jan 6, 2005, 9:58 PM

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Windows Mellenium will run anything :)


ihavedragmed
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Jan 11, 2005, 12:28 PM

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ur right. linux is also pretty good.


coolgreen44
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Jan 15, 2005, 4:05 PM

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never used it


ihavedragmed
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Jan 18, 2005, 5:54 AM

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never used what? linux?


M3tal_h3ad
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Jan 18, 2005, 7:33 PM

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u cant play heeps of GAMES on linux thoughMad


Memino
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Jan 19, 2005, 8:26 AM

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Windows 4 me!!!


Del
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Jan 19, 2005, 8:27 AM

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(1) Get WINE to play most Windows GAMES on Linux.

(2) Run Linux and Windows side-by-side.


ihavedragmed
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Jan 19, 2005, 10:39 AM

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this post is old, let it die


Athlon XP
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Jan 20, 2005, 1:19 AM

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I started a topic like this as Athlon a looooong time ago.
It erupted into a massive war with Daveboy. [Expletive Deleted]ing sweet.


Cruel__Machine
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Jan 31, 2005, 10:08 AM

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Windows is the best... no questions about it. If you disagree, then your a fool.

There are reasons why windows is used the most. And there are reasons why linux is open-source. Don't care how much you talk about "Linux can be used for webhosting and other servers! Therefore it's the 0wnz0rz!" We're talking about the best os... not which os is the best for running servers.


Issac Katana
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Jan 31, 2005, 10:51 AM

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Windows, And If anyone says Mac, I will system lock on you.


Xbot
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Jan 31, 2005, 11:03 AM

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Windows is the best... no questions about it. If you disagree, then your a fool.

There are reasons why windows is used the most. And there are reasons why linux is open-source. Don't care how much you talk about "Linux can be used for webhosting and other servers! Therefore it's the 0wnz0rz!" We're talking about the best os... not which os is the best for running servers.


Yeah. One reason it's used the most: Microsoft forces it. They make their software standard, so you have no choice. If you use linux, you shall see what it's like to have a PC work.


TazG
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Feb 23, 2005, 1:13 AM

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Here we go again.
Yes, Cruel__Machine, there ARE reasons Windows is the best. Here they are:

Although MS-DOS was the dominant operating system being used in the clones, it was not the only one, and certainly never the best (remember, it was a copy of a command-line operating system designed in 1975 for computer hobbyists using 8-bit computers, and it was now the mid-80's with its 16-bit computers). But Microsoft made sure that their dominance in the OS market for IBM PCs quickly turned into a near-monopoly. They devised a licensing agreement that required any company which desired to use MS-DOS on some of their computers pay Microsoft for each computer they sold, regardless of whether MS-DOS was on that specific computer. Since MS-DOS was already the dominant operating system, the business model of the majority of the IBM clone manufacturers depended on selling it with some of their computers. They were therefore left with no choice but to agree to Microsoft's licensing plan. But now that they had agreed to it, they were required to pay for two operating systems when they wanted only to put a non-Microsoft operating system on their computer. This, of course, made it rare to find a computer which did not come with MS-DOS, establishing Microsoft's monopoly in the IBM PC operating system market.
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Microsoft again used its dominance in one market -- this time Macintosh software -- to force the industry to bend to its wishes. It threatened to discontinue development of Macintosh applications unless Apple licensed portions of the Mac OS. This would have been a major blow to Apple, since Microsoft was the dominant software provider for the Mac. So Apple was strong-armed into licensing parts of their OS to Microsoft. Windows 1.0 was introduced later that year.
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In 1990, Microsoft released Windows 3.0. By then, Microsoft had clearly gone far beyond its licensing agreement with Apple, and had stolen patented intellectual property.
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Microsoft released Windows 95 on August 24, 1995, supposedly completing their theft of the Macintosh look and feel, but the change was only one of appearance. Deep down, Windows 95 is still QDOS.
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So, as we've seen, Microsoft's dominant market position was not earned by innovative products and a vision, but was acquired through luck and deception.


(from http://members.aol.com/machcu/msrise.html)


Cruel__Machine
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Feb 23, 2005, 11:46 AM

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That article is not really about windows... just about microsoft.

I'm not talking about this...

I didn't base my judgement on which company was moral. I didn't base my judgement on which os was more stable and which os has the least security issues. Just because microsoft products were/are the most used, which made other companys give in to their demands, doesn't make what they did wrong...

Just answer me this... if microsoft products have been so terrible, why did people use them? People like to be ripped off? They love being crippled by using hardware/software that is insufficient to their needs? People hate all these superior products because they're too good?

Don't care if windows jabbed me in the eye every time I used it... If you want to experience the greatest number of practical uses from your computer, you better have windows.


TazG
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Feb 24, 2005, 1:15 AM

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That article is not really about windows... just about microsoft.

I'm not talking about this...

I didn't base my judgement on which company was moral. I didn't base my judgement on which os was more stable and which os has the least security issues. Just because microsoft products were/are the most used, which made other companys give in to their demands, doesn't make what they did wrong...

The question is which OS is better overall. The answer is definitely not Windows. DOS was an 8-bit OS written for 4-bit processors. It was made for fun. It should never have been used seriously. But MS made IBM use it anyway. They continued mangling it by making a 16-bit desktop to compete with Macintosh. Windows 98 was a 32-bit patch for this and XP 64-bit edition is just another hack to top it off. Can't you see what a huge ugly mess this is??

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Just answer me this... if microsoft products have been so terrible, why did people use them?

Because it's FORCED on them. Try to buy a PC without Windows on it. You can't. Most people think that PC and Windows mean the same thing.


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If you want to experience the greatest number of practical uses from your computer, you better have windows.

That's just ridiculous and I'm not even going to try to debate it. I stopped using Windows because I couldn't handle the crap I had to deal with anymore. It was definitely not "practical".


(This post was edited by TazG on Feb 24, 2005, 1:16 AM)


Del
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Feb 24, 2005, 3:24 AM

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6 Months on, and the thread still lives Tongue


Cruel__Machine
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Feb 24, 2005, 1:48 PM

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Why have ppl worked on making emulator-like programs to run windows apps on linux? Because that's where all the software at.

Windows is definitely practical. If you wanted to get a job in the computer biz and you said "I have 5 years experience in programming linux apps... c++, gnome, everything..."

They'd say "Cool, do you know how to make windows apps?" (Not fully true... there are some jobs that specialize in linux apps. Few compared to windows however). Just the plain fact that windows is the most popular makes it practical. If you're a programmer, why the hell are you to make a program if the mojority of the masses won't use it?

Amazing how microsoft has more resources, more cash, any programming team they wish.... and they still have crappy products. Wouldn't have thought it possible...

And you still didn't answer my question. Yes, microsoft has forced their product. But why does microsoft have so much influence? Not talking about windows. How were they able to force ms-dos if it was so terrible? Are companys just as stupid as the consumers buying these crappy products?

The way I answered the question of the best os is... I looked at them and thought about which would be the hardest to make. Windows is my choice for which is hardest to make. Not exactly the right way to look at it, but that's what I do. If linux was made user-friendly like windows.. I might find it superior. It's getting better... and the linux following it getting bigger. I like linux just as much as the next guy, I have two versions installed right now. But most of my activities require windows. Until linux is up to date, I'm not switching my os. Linux is more powerful and stable, but I still don't see it as the best.


TazG
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Feb 24, 2005, 2:34 PM

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Why have ppl worked on making emulator-like programs to run windows apps on linux? Because that's where all the software at.

Those apps do exist but I don't like them because it discourages people from making Linux software.

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Windows is definitely practical. If you wanted to get a job in the computer biz and you said "I have 5 years experience in programming linux apps... c++, gnome, everything..."

They'd say "Cool, do you know how to make windows apps?" (Not fully true... there are some jobs that specialize in linux apps. Few compared to windows however). Just the plain fact that windows is the most popular makes it practical. If you're a programmer, why the hell are you to make a program if the mojority of the masses won't use it?

Why are you saying this? It doesn't change the fact that it's a worse OS.


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Amazing how microsoft has more resources, more cash, any programming team they wish.... and they still have crappy products. Wouldn't have thought it possible...

Because their business strategies get in the way of making Real Software. For example look at this quote:
"The problem (and the genius) regarding Microsoft's products is bloat. Microsoft's penchant for producing overweight code is not an accident. It's the business model for the company. ... While [bloatware has] made Bill Gates the world's richest guy, it's made life miserable for people who have to use these computers and expect them to run without crashing or dying."
-John C. Dvorak, PC Magazine


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And you still didn't answer my question. Yes, microsoft has forced their product. But why does microsoft have so much influence? Not talking about windows. How were they able to force ms-dos if it was so terrible? Are companys just as stupid as the consumers buying these crappy products?

If you read the entire article here:
http://members.aol.com/machcu/msrise.html
you'll see that they didn't really have a choice.


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The way I answered the question of the best os is... I looked at them and thought about which would be the hardest to make. Windows is my choice for which is hardest to make.

We can't seem to agree on anything. Why do you say Windows was hardest to make when it's nothing but a series of patches and hacks to an OS that was stolen from somebody else? Windows 98 was made in TWO DAYS.

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If linux was made user-friendly like windows.. I might find it superior.

I think the only thing that isn't user-friendly about Linux is setting it up. In the Windows world everything is set up and supported by the computer manufacturers. If MS never infected the world and this happened with Linux and other OSes instead, Linux would be more user-friendly than Windows. So there is nothing wrong with the OS. Once someone takes the time to set everything up there is almost no extra maintenance needed like with Windows. My system is set up nicely and is much nicer to use than Windows.


(This post was edited by TazG on Feb 24, 2005, 2:38 PM)


Cruel__Machine
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Feb 24, 2005, 2:45 PM

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I think this'll go nowhere. Simply an opinion-based question I guess.


TazG
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Feb 25, 2005, 12:23 AM

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I think this'll go nowhere. Simply an opinion-based question I guess.

I think your opinion is based on a lack of facts.
I think you think Windows is easier because it's *familiar* to you. I think you are too lazy to properly set up and learn to use a Linux system. You like the Windows GUI because you have used it for many many years. Linux GUIs are much more powerful and can be set up exactly as you want. Heck, you could even make a Linux GUI that is exactly like a Windows one. But you are too ignorant about Linux to realize these things. This poll isn't about which OS you are more familiar with, it's about which is best. I also used to think that Windows was the best back when it was all I knew. That's the problem with this poll - most people here just use Windows all the time. It's like how some old people would say that records are better than CDs.


Cruel__Machine
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Feb 25, 2005, 5:34 AM

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lmao I know linux plenty well... I own serveral books on linux and have read them all. I use linux only a few times a week. I'm sticking with windows... considering learning linux will do nothing for me when everyone uses windows. I only use linux for education. I like to learn everything, even if I won't use it.


(This post was edited by Cruel__Machine on Feb 25, 2005, 5:35 AM)


TazG
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Feb 25, 2005, 5:57 AM

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I never said you don't *know* Linux. You just haven't bothered to try to make it work for you as a desktop. You started working with it with the attitude that it's just a learning toy. You never even considered that it could be used as a general-purpose OS. Fine, go and have fun dealing with Windows. I can't stop you. But you're missing out big time.


(This post was edited by TazG on Jul 8, 2005, 8:14 AM)

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