Asgard Elite
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Jul 21, 2007, 6:47 AM
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Point is that if The Empire and The federation got in a war The empire would win if weeks if not days.
One way to compare sci-fi ground armies is to ask: "How would they fare against a modern army of equal numerical strength?" Let's take a specific scenario: a modern, well-equipped army takes on an Imperial or Federation army over open ground, with no advantage of surprise going to either side. Aerial and orbital support (as well as fancy tricks such as transporters and non-optical sensors) are taken out of the equation by violent electrical storms, poor visibility, and high-powered ECM. Nuclear weapons are prohibited because this battle is taking place just ouside of a city which both sides want in intact and inhabitable condition. How would our futuristic armies fare?
Thanks to its broad inventory of weapons and its use of combined-arms tactics, an Imperial army would be able to go toe-to-toe with a modern army in most respects, with some factors going their way and some going against them. Stormtrooper armour is environmentally sealed and much stronger than modern body armour, so it conveys an advantage to the Empire: they can FREEly use chemical weapons as long as the chemical agent is short-lived and easily dispersed (to avoid excessive collateral damage in the nearby city). Furthermore, stormtrooper armour is capable of stopping small-arms fire, thus making anything smaller than a grenade launcher useless. However, modern artillery has greater flexibility and useful effective range than Imperial artillery, thanks to its avoidance of line-of-sight restrictions. On the other hand, Imperial armour is like no land vehicle ever seen on this planet. An AT-AT is at least an order of magnitude more massive than the largest modern tank, and its weapons are flexible and powerful enough to destroy anything from low-altitude aircraft to enemy artillery pieces and even entire enemy installations, all from many kilometres away. Heavy war droids represent an entirely new element on the field of battle, and their psychological impact alone could be devastating. And finally, their CAS is rather unusual in the sense that they can employ more armour and they can use shielding technology, thanks to their repulsorlifts. A battle would probably go to an Imperial army on the strength of their armoured vehicles and war droids, since they would undoubtedly counteract artillery stand-off tactics by rapidly closing the distance until the range disparity is nullified, and their superior armour and firepower can come into play.
The outcome of a battle between a Federation army and a modern army is much easier to predict: it would be a one-sided massacre. Federation ground forces are completely one dimensional, with no concept whatsoever of combined arms tactics; if you present an opponent which is not easily attacked by men on foot with small arms fire, then they have no recourse but to call for air support. They have no armour for protection and mobility, they have no equipment for surviving chemical or biological warfare, and they have no way of retaliating against enemy artillery. The result is that they would be slaughtered wholesale by artillery at long range, without any chance to retaliate or even see the faces of their killers (in "Nor the Battle to the Strong", they couldn't even fashion a response to Klingon light mortars, never mind the huge artillery pieces a modern army would call into action). Even if they were to miraculously avoid being blown apart by heavy artillery while trudging toward enemy positions on foot, they would be dead the moment they came within 1-2 kilometres of modern infantry, because they would be ripped to shreds by mortar fire, shell fire, and fixed machine gun fire long before they could ever come close to the range where a man might be able to hit anything with a hand held rifle. Even a rifle with perfect accuracy is only as accurate as the man who fires it, and three centuries of technological development won't change that. Trekkies tend to argue that a ground army doesn't need all these capabilities if they have transporters and orbital support, but both of those crutches can be removed by a cunning enemy, so in the end, this argument is just a tacit admission of the gross inadequacy of Federation ground forces.
Also There have been many series about how star wars tech is actually possible or already available.
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(This post was edited by Asgard Elite on Jul 21, 2007, 6:50 AM)
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