Yes, I do not have proof Sythe DIDN'T DDoS you, but there is no proof that he did. Where is your proof? You have I don't see any, re-read this at least 4x so you can comprehend it and then rethink your first paragraph.

even if there was good reason to believe, it was wrong.

Is it not true that you have ALOT of spammers and scammers on your forums? You and several other users of these forums have even said so, don't remember? Reread each of your posts.

You are a leaching community, I see countless topics on information and bots for ALL SORTS OF DIFFRENT GAMES, STOLEN from other websites. If you can't create your own that doesn't mean you should STEAL.

My phrases are not "attacking" I am suggesting that you need to try and stop yourselves, keep on going down the path of ignorance, I dare you it will lead to these forums demise. The reason it is not a widely-held view around these forums is because of people such as yourself attempting to "cover up" the fact that it is the reality of these forums, you attempt to ban almost anyone in your way. I do not deny that I myself have not been banned, yet. That doesn't mean you have gotten rid of others with diffrent points of view in the past. Not long ago you banned Sythe, useless youcan't stop him he does what he pleases, so does anyone in your community with power.

(the lunatic you are referring to was probably one of the creators of your forums that you hold in high esteem )

actually i do believe jammer has proofthat sythe DoSed fgf...

and may i just reply omega...shut up...taz please do the same...both of you just drop it and walk away from this thread...

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Of course there is no proof. But there is a REASON to believe it. Let me quote you again:

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This quote shows ignorance on your part. We DO have reason to believe that Sythe.org was responsible, and I told you those reasons earlier. But you haven't given me anything other than the fact that I don't have "solid" proof. I don't care. You are being ignorant and saying simply "it was wrong." Neither of us have proof, but I do have backup. You do not. So re-read this at least 4x so you can comprehend it and then rethink your first paragraph.

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In our Runescape section, yes, we do. What is your point, sir? Does that give your members the right to shun any single representative from this site with stupid insults?

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Why do you believe you are superior because you write programs within your own community? This is a FORUM, not a SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY. Got it?

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Please, Omega. Don't talk about this person when you don't know anything about him. We know more about him than you do, and that is an absolute fact.
And please stop acting like that phrase speaks for all of us. It doesn't. We don't "cover up" anything. There is in fact a group of people here, which I am a part of, who are very outspoken about any injustice we see here.
We are not the ignorant ones. I believe you are, as you are demonstrating in these posts.

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He has proof that there was a DDoS attack, but the last time I talked to him, he hadn't had a chance to trace it to a source.

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Luffy, you may see this as pointless bickering, but Omega claims that he wants to "stop a war". I will continue to explain the situation as best I can as long as I am willing and he acts mature enough.
Like Ambassador Fox said to Scotty in Episode 23, "Diplomacy should be a job left to diplomats."

You do have reason to believe, but that reason is just as solid and as believable as Sythe telling us that he didn't.

Yes, you admit that you have scammers and spammers in your runescape section, but there are alot more in other areas of the forums, why would you want to be a part of a community that scams and spams? I don't why do you?

Not a software development company, that's a really sad comeback for STEALING. If you had half the brains people on Sythe did, you would make your own dam software, there IS a diffrence between our forums, we write our OWN programs, you steal your own programs.

Seeing as half the insults your throwing at Sythe.org, say that were moronic 13 year olds, you tend to be very good at contradicting yourself and your forums because I doubt any of your users actually "make" there own programs, which shows the little knowledge they have attained throught there lives.

Are you sure your not covering anything up? I didn't say that ALL of you did, just using it as an example for A MOD FROM YOUR FORUMS WITH THAT BIAS.

Yes, you may be very outspoken I can see it through your posts, YOU are not ignorant, niether am I. Just because you are outspoken against acts of scammers doesn't mean that it helps. You need to get your forums together, the way that it looks now, keep heading in this direction and as I said, your community will meet its demise.

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Hmm, I don't see the logic in this statement. Let me restate why we believed it was Sythe: They are known to be capable of it. They have done things like it in the past. Our admin told me that. Sythe told us that he can do whatever he wants to us, digital laws don't apply to him, and we all suck. Our site went down shortly after that. Now tell me, how is this reasoning not more credible than Sythe saying "It wasn't me"? And even if it WASN'T him, it could be anyone from your site. Sythe himself could actually be telling truth to his knowledge, but that does not mean it's true.

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Your question is invalid, because it is based on the unproven proposition that there are scammers over every section of our site. Therefore, I will not respond.

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You'll have to explain to me what you mean. If you are referring to the fact that we simply use programs that we haven't created, that is not stealing. If you are referring to the things M.G. has done, which makes more sense, I'll have you know that we do not approve of M.G. and he is not even a member of our staff anymore.

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Once again, you are declaring your superiority based on the fact that you create programs and we don't. We are not a scripting community like Sythe.org. That is not our purpose. Why should we do it? You are also implying, in the second half of your paragraph, that whether or not someone knows how to code is a direct measure of their knowledge. Are you freaking serious, man?

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Any such mod would not be respected in our community.

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You misunderstand again.
I was explaining that if there is injustice in our forum, we don't try to cover it up. We speak out. I was not talking about "scammers". Please try to get your head away from Runescape for just a dang minute, will you?

The guy who posted that I think WAS HIGHLY RESEPCTED on these forums, im not sure though might want to check it out, I put the link to the topic on a picture on an earlier post.

Sythe has the capability, yes.
Sythe can do what he pleases online, yes.
Sythe has a motive, yes.

He is a suspect and has been accused of DDoS'ing FGF. Just because he has the ability and has a motive doesn't mean he did

Invalid? oh, let me rephrase, there are people who INTEND to put out trojans and keyloggers onto your forums, I have scanned a few NOT LOCKED TOPICS myself and found a trojan i'd have to say about 1/5 download links off these forums are MOST LIKELY trojans or keyloggers. Not in every forum, I don't see any in forums wheres there is no point in posting a download. Your community ADMITS there are scammers, spammers and people that just intend to keylog and trojan your computer like crazy and that they use these forums almost FREEly. Is it invalid now? Oh wait thats not even a question, it's the truth.

1. Your community leeches off other forums and puts the information onto your forums, basically trying to kill all the other forums around you. Unfortunatley, what would happen if all the forums around you stopped making programs for you to leech off them?

Without the use of programmers, your community would most likely be a failure, most of you users probably joined just to cheat. ( not saying all, just saying MOST )

Are we seriously uneducated? Take a look at a few of your users, there as bad as and possibly worse the few of the Sythe.org users you speak about. Let's face it on both forums we have kids who don't contribute and spell like [Expletive Deleted] that we don't need.

The guy who posted that I think WAS HIGHLY RESEPCTED on these forums, im not sure though might want to check it out, I put the link to the topic on a picture on an earlier post.

Unfortunately you and other moderators may underestimate me as you underestimated sythe, banning me simply cannot get rid of me. Im not saying that I will DDoS or hack FGF,

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Doesn't that prove that sythe did DDoS FGF, you are saying you aren't going to like sythe did. To me that is proof. I don't want all this banter either, I just want to forget about sythe and sythe to forget about FGF so we can both just be at least civil.

We have 7 groups, 2 of those are Runescape related.
I'm sorry but you cannot class FGF as being full of Trojans, Keyloggers etc when only 2 groups are dedicated to runescape.
I have been positng less and less in the forum and much more in the General etc forums, do you chedk any of these for keyoggers and trojans............nope didin't think so, what would the need be?
You say we are un-intellegent because a lot of us do not know how to Program, all I have to say is if you think being able to Program is Knowlegable then you are very wrong.
Why would we need to create pur own programs anyway?
Very small part of the site is dedicated to Rs and we arn't exactly trying to flog programs to members for money like Sythe, we just provide them with FREE programs to use at there Leisure.
Now tell me what is wrong with that?

I do not have proof but I have reason to suspect that someone who is part of the Sythe community carried out the attack, what with things that were said.

this topic will probrably be locked

Making peace with Sythe.org is like making peace with the Borg - they don't want peace and they cannot be reasoned with. In fact, making peace with the Borg would be preferable, because Sythe.org wants to destroy us, whereas the Borg would just assimilate us.

So now WE are assimilating THEM?

You guys are weird. Your flaming each other over another community.