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Valiant
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Nov 18, 2006, 8:57 AM

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Where do you think Ex-Professor Snape lays his loyalty, to Voldemort and his Death Eaters, or to Harry Potter and his Pissy Whiny Friends?

Discuss.


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Arkanor
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Nov 18, 2006, 8:59 AM

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To Voldemort.

I have no faith in the 'common goodness' of man. Snape is a bastard and he did in fact kill Dumbledore. Dumbledore is dead. He's not coming back. Sirius is dead. He's not coming back. Harry's parents are dead. They're not coming back.


Valiant
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Nov 18, 2006, 9:06 AM

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Uh huh. You seem pretty stable in your opinion.

BUT CONSIDER THIS.

Everytime Rowling has unleashed a "hidden villain" she has always done it by surprising us. Quirrel. Moody. Why would she all-of-a-sudden give us a clear insight of Snape's true intentions and remove all the tension?

In the sixth book (I recently read it again, so it's clear in my mind), Hagrid tells us that he hears Dumbledore scolding (or something) Snape because Snape doesn't want to do something anymore. That maybe Dumbledore is taking him for granted. The obvious thing here would be that he doesn't want to spy on Malfoy. Or is it that he doesn't want to kill Dumbledore anymore?

I think it's going to be one of those "surprise surprise" things.

I also heard a rumor that Dumbledore has a horcrux, but I highly doubt it.


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Pheylan
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Nov 18, 2006, 9:09 AM

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Dumbledore was soulstoned. It was all a ploy to draw out the traitor in his ranks.


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jabman
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Nov 18, 2006, 9:12 AM

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........

You score a 2/10


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Bringer of war and violence.


Valiant
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Nov 18, 2006, 9:15 AM

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You score a 2/10

Shush, this is no place for kids. We're discussing serious issues here.



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jabman
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Nov 18, 2006, 9:17 AM

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OOOOOkkk.... hey Val, wanna get our soldat match over?


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Valiant
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Nov 18, 2006, 9:18 AM

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I don't have a mouse right now. I'll have one tomorrow when I'm at my muzzer's, though.


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BigEasy
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Nov 18, 2006, 9:18 AM

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Hagrid is quite the pimp, I must say.


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Pheylan
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Nov 18, 2006, 9:18 AM

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Look at me I can't type out Valiant.


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Beamer
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Nov 18, 2006, 9:41 AM

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I believe that Snape is not evil. I had links to evidence for this. But I don't want to dig them up.

The biggest point is that when Snape killed Dumby, dumby flew backwards. Avada Kedavra (from what the rest of the books tell us) leave no scar, or any sign of foul play. (except in Harry's case)

Anyway It says that Snape and Dumby looked at each other for a few seconds before Snape killed him. Two accomplished legiliments (lol spelling) stare at each other.

Snape had hatred etched into the lines of his face. Mabye it was hatred of what he was about to do?

[/nerd]







Valiant
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Nov 18, 2006, 10:21 AM

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I was reading some interviews with Rowling, though, and she said that Dumbledore was definitely dead.


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neocloud101
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Nov 18, 2006, 10:22 AM

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I hate people who wanted inklings of hope that Dumbledore was actually in a conspiracy and he really didn't die. Shut up, idiots. He died. Get over it!


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Valiant
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Nov 18, 2006, 10:24 AM

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Shut up, idiots. He died. Get over it!

OR DID HE?



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neocloud101
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Nov 18, 2006, 10:28 AM

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People cried over Sirius dying. He didn't come back. Plus, if Dumbledore DID come back, I'd sue J.K. Rowling for horrible dramatic storyline. Geez, people. It makes such a good story if the mentor of the main person dies before the end under the hand of the antagonist himself. It gives the protagonist more emotion and motivation. It makes a book cool.


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jabman
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Nov 18, 2006, 10:32 AM

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People cried over Sirius dying. He didn't come back. Plus, if Dumbledore DID come back, I'd sue J.K. Rowling for horrible dramatic storyline. Geez, people. It makes such a good story if the mentor of the main person dies before the end under the hand of the antagonist himself. It gives the protagonist more emotion and motivation. It makes a book cool.


Kinda like Star Wars when Obi-Wan dies. [/nerd]


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gre dork
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Nov 18, 2006, 10:51 AM

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Voldemort, I tought it was obvious.


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Valiant
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Nov 18, 2006, 10:58 AM

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Yeah, but the argument here is whether or not Snape killed Dumbledore under Dumbledore's orders.


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gre dork
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Nov 18, 2006, 11:00 AM

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If snape killed dumbeldore under dumbeldore's orders?


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Valiant
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Nov 18, 2006, 11:04 AM

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Yes, my naive friend.


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Peach Pit
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Nov 18, 2006, 11:09 AM

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Dumbledore was killed so Snape could keep his undercover position.


bye.


el nish
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Nov 18, 2006, 10:27 PM

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Dumbledore was killed so Snape could keep his undercover position.

Yeah. And in book 7 something big's gonna go down.


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neocloud101
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Nov 18, 2006, 10:32 PM

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Yeah, but the argument here is whether or not Snape killed Dumbledore under Dumbledore's orders.

Oh.. Well... You gotta wait 'til the final book to see.


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Koaladude
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Nov 19, 2006, 7:52 AM

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Hehe, Harry Potter.

I didn't like Dumbledore he kind of knew everything and it got on my nerves. I think Snape killed Dumbledore (J.K keeps telling people that on her website but nobody seems to listen) and he's gone to hang out with his Death Eater buddies.



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Shimrra
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Nov 21, 2006, 3:35 AM

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Can anyone fill me in on what happened since the order of the phoenix? I seem to have been to lazy to read those books. I hear Dumby bit the dirt?


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