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Shinysheep
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Apr 10, 2007, 12:14 PM

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FREEdom fo Religion and FREEdom of Speech.

A student was suspended for wearing an eyepatch to school, in North Carolina, despite the fact that it was religious gear.

http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200770328123

http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article.html?in_article_id=43272&in_page_id=2

Whaddya think?

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Jindrak
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Apr 10, 2007, 12:23 PM

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...I...it...but...
IT'S A FUCKING EYEPATCH. PIRATE ISN'T A RELIGION.

Some people call me the space cowboy, yeah
Some call me the gangster of love
Some people call me Maurice
Cause I speak of the pompitous of love

(This post was edited by Jindrak on Apr 10, 2007, 12:32 PM)

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Apr 10, 2007, 12:25 PM

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FREEdom of religion does not apply to schools, or so i have been told by the Texas government, they claim when i begin going to a school i agree to that schools rules, no matter how unjust the rules are. They do not care if you "have to go to school" or if its no tin your budget to leave that school. The school board has the right to act in anyway it seems appropriate, because it is elected by Parents...

So it is not, because i still had to cut my hair...

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Katiuscaa
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Apr 10, 2007, 12:29 PM

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...I...it...but...
IT'S A [Expletive Deleted]ING EYEPATCH. PIRATE ISN'T A RELIGION.

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Apr 10, 2007, 12:36 PM

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...I...it...but...
IT'S A FUCKING EYEPATCH. PIRATE ISN'T A RELIGION.

HEY! Don't deny your god! Pirate

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CROMEDOME
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Apr 10, 2007, 12:38 PM

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...I...it...but...
IT'S A FUCKING EYEPATCH. PIRATE ISN'T A RELIGION.

yes it is... dont mess with piratheisim they play hard

-Xavier-
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Apr 10, 2007, 12:40 PM

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We all know that Pastafarianism is a legitimate religion.

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Jindrak
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Apr 10, 2007, 12:40 PM

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YOU'RE ALL VERY HUMOROUS.

Some people call me the space cowboy, yeah
Some call me the gangster of love
Some people call me Maurice
Cause I speak of the pompitous of love

neocloud101
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Apr 10, 2007, 1:43 PM

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I wore an eyepatch to school once. The teachers were like, "I can't believe they haven't already put that in the dress code." Month later, we weren't allowed to do so anymore. lol.

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Zenaku
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Apr 10, 2007, 2:20 PM

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We all know that Pastafarianism is a legitimate religion.

The question is how does a religion obtain legitimacy?Since it's a FREE country therefore you have the right to believe in whatever you want..

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Apr 10, 2007, 3:02 PM

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If the little shit disturber wants to wear an eye patch for the lulz, then what the hell, let him, who cares.

bye.

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Apr 10, 2007, 3:11 PM

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FREEdom fo Religion and FREEdom of Speech.

A student was suspended for wearing an eyepatch to school, in North Carolina, despite the fact that it was religious gear.

http://www.citizen-times.com/...cle?AID=200770328123

http://www.metro.co.uk/...272&in_page_id=2

Whaddya think?

Was it at least international talk like a pirate day? (actual holiday) Or any other pirate related holiday?

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Maelstrom
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Apr 10, 2007, 10:41 PM

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If you actually know anything about the laws of the United States, you'd know that in Public places you are not allowed to undergo religious practice. Church is not a public place per say so it does not apply to it.

TazG
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Apr 11, 2007, 2:30 AM

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It was an immature joke and he knew it - he's just playing with the system. He also called it "FREEdom of expression". But the fact is he wore an eyepatch and brought an inflatable sword to school, and everybody was probably staring and/or laughing at him. I mean come on, even if he was serious, this has nothing to do with the law. People have FREEdom to express themselves by singing too. That doesn't mean you can start singing in the middle of class and refuse to shut up after being warned four times.

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Shinysheep
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Apr 11, 2007, 7:34 AM

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Yeagh, but, he can claim that it's religious gear. yeah, pastafarianism laughs at itself. Finally, a lighthearted religion. Anyways, wearing an eyepatch is no different from wearing a cross, it's part of his religious beliefs.

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king_zepplin
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Apr 11, 2007, 7:53 AM

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I dont have a problem with people wearing religious things in school, but the whole pastafarian thing is a joke. While i agree with why the guy made the FSM site, its kinda stupid to actually parade around in the stuff and claim its your religion. That's like a black guy saying nigger all the time in class just to make a white guy get in trouble when he says it. Religion sucks. Atheist ftw

TazG
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Apr 12, 2007, 12:05 AM

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Yeagh, but, he can claim that it's religious gear.

Exactly. "It was an immature joke and he knew it - he's just playing with the system." And he didn't just bring an eyepatch. Did you read the article? He was carrying around a freaking inflatable sword. His beliefs weren't real, and even if they were it wouldn't make a difference. Regardless of how valid a belief is you can't wear the "gear" for it in school if it's distracting. That's basic reasoning. I can't believe this is supposed to be a serious debate.

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loner
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Apr 12, 2007, 5:41 AM

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If you want it to be an actual debate, at least edit the first post so it's not just about some stupid kid.
This belongs in humor and jokes, although it's not even remotely funny.

Xbot
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Apr 12, 2007, 8:54 AM

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He's right here though. If he wishes to believe in this religion, then he shouldn't be told to move it unless it was a clear disruption. That's hard to prove.

A judge in one case where students wore armbands to protest the Vietnam war said that students don't lose their constitutional rights when they enter their school gates. This counts.

If the school says it respects religious beliefs, than this student shouldn't of been suspended. It doesn't matter that the religion isn't 'normal' or widely believed, it's a religion. Anyone who claims it's not is wanting us to enter a very slippery slope: What exactly makes a religion? Then you start to get with discrimination of religions that seem valid, since you obviously can't get all aspects of religion into something like this.

The kid kind of wimped out on us, though: He didn't wear the eyepatch when he got back to school. Lame. He should wear it anyway, if he really wanted to persue this, which basically means he doesn't.

Eyepatches are no more a disruption than when we started bring retarded kids into normal classes. One of them got really bad mood swings, and would literally throw chairs at people. But since the state was wanting us to put mentally deficient kids in these classes, the school's hands were tied. This is obviously a lot less - a few chuckles at the beginning of class, and occasional pirate joke - but beyond that, it's fine.

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Jindrak
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Apr 12, 2007, 10:29 AM

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But you have to draw the line somewhere, or eventually people will be able to get around any dress code by screaming religion. The fact that he didn't wear it back should say he doesn't actually take it very seriously.

Some people call me the space cowboy, yeah
Some call me the gangster of love
Some people call me Maurice
Cause I speak of the pompitous of love

TazG
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Apr 12, 2007, 9:53 PM

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You're just rambling about religion, but all your points are meaningless, especially considering the high likelihood that he wasn't even serious. As you pointed out yourself, he didn't wear it back.

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If he wishes to believe in this religion, then he shouldn't be told to move it unless it was a clear disruption. That's hard to prove.

This sentence starts with "IF" and ends with "That's hard to prove." True, although you were referring to whether it caused a disruption - but you're wrong. What's hard to prove is whether he was serious in the first place. It's much easier to come to the conclusion that he wasn't, and he was drawing attention to himself on purpose. How exactly would it be hard to prove that he was causing a disruption? It's not hard to tell when kids are distracted. And for the third time, he was dragging an inflatable sword around everywhere, not just wearing an eyepatch. Why do you say it was just "a few chuckles at the beginning of class"? Hmm? Were you there?

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Pheylan
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Apr 13, 2007, 8:29 AM

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cut my hair...

Heh, [Expletive Deleted] that.

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Apr 13, 2007, 9:19 AM

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It was that or juvenile detention for 3 months till i turned 18, and could legally say, "[Expletive Deleted] off asshat" to the Police...

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Pheylan
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Apr 13, 2007, 10:31 AM

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Wow. I would have moved if where you live is that bad.

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Apr 13, 2007, 10:37 AM

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I live in the most backwoods, redneck town in the world...

Move? Couldn't, cause my mother wanted my check.

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