But again, it works both ways, it's not like you can cite sources that God comes before religion.
I'd copy and paste Taz's wonderful hard drive analogy but I'm too busy scratching my back.
so you knwo all this maths and science [Expletive Deleted] yet your willing to say a non existent person whos never materilsied made the universe if so what made him?
lol, silly old question.
Let's think for a second here. If this is your reasoning against this belief and the reason you believe what you do instead, then you had better not have the same fault in yours.
So let's take a look at your idea...
Also its already proven evolution made us.
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rofl.
Evolution made us? K, given the context, I presume you are saying that all life came from a lower form, in our case apes, and this is how we were all "made", thus disproving an intelligent Creator.
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So where the crap did your ape come from. 'Ey?
Look at it this way, son:
Where did this forum come from? What we have here are a bunch of files functioning together to create a website. Computer science proves that all files are complex combinations of bits (AKA "0's and 1's"), and that no data can come into being without bits.
Now suppose we're all living in a computer in our own little "universe" known as the hard drive, and I tell you that someone built the hard drive. Someone with an intelligence that completely transcends computer program logic. Someone who builds on an entirely new level from the computer's capabilities.
And Little Mercer comes up to me and says "Taz, you know so much about computers yet you're willing to believe that some person created the hard drive, who hasn't even materialized in the form of data? How can he exist without bits? What software was used to make him?"
Don't you see the absurdity of it? When it comes to the creation of the universe, you can't expect an explanation that abides by the way the universe functions itself. Nothing which created the universe could have mass or energy, because that is part of the universe. The universe didn't come from within itself. That's as silly as saying that a hard drive was created by software.
All scientific theories that depend on what humans have learned about how the universe works to explain how it originated have that problem. It makes no sense to think that the universe came from anywhere but outside the universe.
It's been proven that everything in the universe has a beginning and an end.
Therefore the universe itself has a beginning as well.
Therefore the universe has a source. That source is of course not part of the universe and doesn't have to worry about such limitations as a beginning and an end.
And all you have to do is look at it and realize that it's not random.
This is your proof, Little Mercer. There is an intelligent creator we call God, and God has no creator.
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