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coolgreencat
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Dec 14, 2006, 8:28 AM

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Also, They could have live with some dinosaurs, but not T rex'es or any larger than that.

How does the size of a dinosaur indicate whether they were alive when humans were?

Well lets put it this way...

~ represents layers of the earth.




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Human remains and recent animal bones
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Mammoth, and early mammals found.
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Small dinosaurs and bird bones
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Large lizards and Huge dinosaur bones found.
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Dec 14, 2006, 9:00 AM

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Bad move, now Taz is gonna tell you how those layers were formed in weeks by a massive flood and how the entire rock strata is bullcrap 'cause of trees and crap.

/lols at both of you


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TazG
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Dec 14, 2006, 9:15 AM

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Well lets put it this way...

Let's not.

You don't read very well do you?


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There is no way to determine how old things are based on where they are found. It's based on an imaginary assumption, and these facts and more show how that assumption holds no validity at all.


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They need burial and time. That's a fact. The assumption is that the burial takes millions of years, thus the depth they are buried at shows how old they are. That's definitely flawed. If they were buried quickly it could easily have happened in 6000 years or less. And it only makes sense that they WERE buried quickly, because otherwise they would have decomposed.


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You've not seen evidence yourself. YOU have not researched and discovered reasonable explanations. You can't explain it in your own words. You just assumed it to be correct.


We're on this subject in the creation vs. evolution thread. All you're doing here is stating one side of it as fact because you have heard it in school. You're not contributing any well-founded logical deductions at all. There's no point posting your ideas in a debate if you can't back them up.


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coolgreencat
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Dec 14, 2006, 10:28 AM

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And what exactly do you believe what happened?


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neocloud101
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Dec 14, 2006, 10:33 AM

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There is no way to determine how old things are based on where they are found. It's based on an imaginary assumption, and these facts and more show how that assumption holds no validity at all.

Actually, it's a rounded amount. You can tell somewhat on how old things are based on scientific studies. Not an exact amount, no way. But a rounded between a million or so years. A lot, yes. But the fact is that you can use fossils to find a possible time period.

You can't just find a fossil and say, "Oh my God! Triassic Era!!!"


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Peach Pit
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Dec 14, 2006, 10:37 AM

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It seems impractical that 4,000 years fossils would be here.

Impractical based on the assumption that it takes longer than that for things to fossilize. But There is no way to determine how old things are based on where they are found. So how exactly do you conlude that it's impractical?


What about carbon dating; The Half-Life formula? A molecule of carbon will diminish by one half each year or so.


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TazG
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Dec 14, 2006, 11:59 AM

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It seems impractical that 4,000 years fossils would be here.

Impractical based on the assumption that it takes longer than that for things to fossilize. But There is no way to determine how old things are based on where they are found. So how exactly do you conlude that it's impractical?


What about carbon dating; The Half-Life formula? A molecule of carbon will diminish by one half each year or so.

Explain this:

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Recently it has been discovered that "homo habilis" and "erectus" lived at the same time (but in different places) and "neanderthal" was discovered in the same place as modern human bones.



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TazG
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Dec 14, 2006, 12:03 PM

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There is no way to determine how old things are based on where they are found. It's based on an imaginary assumption, and these facts and more show how that assumption holds no validity at all.

Actually, it's a rounded amount. You can tell somewhat on how old things are based on scientific studies. Not an exact amount, no way. But a rounded between a million or so years. A lot, yes. But the fact is that you can use fossils to find a possible time period.

You can't just find a fossil and say, "Oh my God! Triassic Era!!!"

You can get an idea of how old something is that you found through certain methods. They all have flaws. The most common method is by looking at where they were found, and it is the most flawed. It seems that people choose which method they want based on the conclusion it suggests. They are inconsistent. Countless examples indicate that they have invented a theory out of their imagination and look for evidence to support it, as opposed to finding evidence and drawing an unbiased conclusion from it.


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TazG
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Dec 14, 2006, 12:05 PM

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And what exactly do you believe what happened?

The fossil record was created by a relatively immediate burial. It is no indication of how old the earth is.


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coolgreencat
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Dec 14, 2006, 12:09 PM

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And what exactly do you believe what happened?

The fossil record was created by a relatively immediate burial. It is no indication of how old the earth is.

So your telling me that you can tell nothing of earth age from fossils?


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Peach Pit
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Dec 14, 2006, 12:10 PM

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was discovered in the same place as modern human bones.


Same place doesn't mean same time frame, although it is suggestive. Where were the Neanderthal and human bones found?


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TazG
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Dec 14, 2006, 12:34 PM

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Same place doesn't mean same time frame

It does logically, and it does when it is convenient to the evolution theory, and it sometimes doesn't when it is convenient. Like I said, it's inconsistent. Things are interpreted to mean what they want it to mean. And many times, bones were found far away from each other, but still attributed to the same creature. In other words creatures that never existed are being fabricated to support evolution.

We went off track. This stuff belongs in the evolution thread.


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coolgreencat
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Dec 14, 2006, 12:52 PM

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Same place doesn't mean same time frame

It does logically, and it does when it is convenient to the evolution theory, and it sometimes doesn't when it is convenient. Like I said, it's inconsistent. Things are interpreted to mean what they want it to mean. And many times, bones were found far away from each other, but still attributed to the same creature. In other words creatures that never existed are being fabricated to support evolution.

We went off track. This stuff belongs in the evolution thread.


It depends what you mean--- Well let me ask you this, do you believe in pangia?


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TazG
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Dec 14, 2006, 3:24 PM

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Why?

I think there could have been only one continent once, but the idea that countries "fit together" doesn't seem very scientific. If there was a single continent, the land was totally reformed catastrophically, not through extremely slow "drifting".


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coolgreencat
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Dec 14, 2006, 3:26 PM

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Why?
I think there could have been only one continent once, but the idea that countries "fit together" doesn't seem very scientific. If there was a single continent, the land was totally reformed catastrophically, not through extremely slow "drifting".


Why not? The tectonic plates fit together, and tectonic plates move.

What do you mean catastrophically? Like a huge earth quake?


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TazG
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Dec 15, 2006, 2:51 AM

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Again, this belongs in the evolution thread, where we have already talked about this. The catastrophe was the flood. I don't accept theories that require the earth to be billions of years old.
Here is 14 reasons why an Earth that old is not plausible.


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