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What If...God Didn't Exist?

 
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Eircom
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Apr 10, 2007, 7:06 PM

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 I'm sort of curious about what you religious types would do if you could somehow objectively know that there is no god.

It doesn't really matter how you hypothetically come to the conclusion that there are no gods, but I'll throw out a scenario anyway: Before the universe was created there was an all powerful all knowing god. He knew exactly how every event in the entire universe could play out before they even happened. He even knew about all the events that could happen in every possible parallel universe. He even knew how things would turn out if he decided to intervene in some way. Since he already knew everything about everything, he felt no need to actually do anything. After all, it would be kind of redundant to do something when he already knows the outcome anyway... plus he just can't get himself to care for any particular outcome over any other outcome. So before a nanosecond passes, he decides to poof himself out of existence for eternity. His brief 1/2 nanosecond of existence does not change anything in the universe, because, well, he doesn't want it to. The only exception is that he sent 1 single message to you that you will receive today. His message is that he doesn't exist and there are no souls or astro-planes or angels or ghosts or anything supernatural. There is only the material world that is not affected by god at all. Furthermore, he tells you that he doesn't care what you do in life, and at death you will simply cease to exist.

Ignoring the silliness of god proving that he doesn't exist. How would this new information affect your life? Would you still AP? Would you still go to church and pray? Sometimes I see religious folk argue that morality comes from god, so without god they'd go rob banks and what not... would you start acting like some kind of immoral animal and rob banks or whatever? Or would you keep the same morals you currently have? Or would you just write it off as a moment of doubt/trick of the devil and continue believing in god?

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Invidious
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Apr 10, 2007, 7:33 PM

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This sounds suspiciously like a school homework assignment...

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BECAUSE I ASSED A CURTAIN

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cloud ate noobs
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Apr 10, 2007, 10:07 PM

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It would stay pretty much the same, the world i mean. Morals are based on what is right, and Humanitarian <~~ think thats the correct word...

Well everything would be the same but me walking around with a smug grin telling Jehovah's witness i told you so!


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Maelstrom
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Apr 10, 2007, 10:39 PM

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Morals are based on what is right!

Morals are the exact thing humans don't need.


cloud ate noobs
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Apr 10, 2007, 10:48 PM

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Morals are based on what is right!

Morals are the exact thing humans don't need.
I cant argue with the cold hard logic...

Lets rob a bank?

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nadkicker69
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Apr 11, 2007, 2:27 AM

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If he didn't exist, chances are that I wouldn't be here posting.

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TazG
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Apr 11, 2007, 2:42 AM

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His brief 1/2 nanosecond of existence does not change anything in the universe, because, well, he doesn't want it to. The only exception is that he sent 1 single message to you that you will receive today. His message is that he doesn't exist
Eircom, to most of the people you're aiming your question at, it's like asking "what if your wife told you she doesn't love you?"

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and there are no souls or astro-planes or angels or ghosts or anything supernatural.
Then "where" did he live? Your hypothesis contradicts itself. How is this message received?


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Morals are based on what is right
That's the definition of morals, not the cause.

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Beamer
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Apr 11, 2007, 6:33 AM

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Almost every war that has been fought has been fought over religion. So take all those out. Thats what the world would be like.

We'd have a lot more people "sinning" too though.

But God exists simply because... She does.



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Eircom
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Apr 11, 2007, 7:16 AM

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Then "where" did he live? Your hypothesis contradicts itself. How is this message received?
The time he spent when "it" existed was spent creating the earth, or something. It was only half a nano-second, he did not have to be anywhere, he could have been on the earth.
The message was received by astroid, use your imagination.

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Shinysheep
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Apr 11, 2007, 7:36 AM

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Almost every war that has been fought has been fought over religion. So take all those out. Thats what the world would be like.

We'd have a lot more people "sinning" too though.

But God exists simply because... She does.

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she?

EDIT: Don't most religions believe god is a he? What are you, a wiccan?

(lol no offense meant. jsut asking what religion u are, in a roundabout way)

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Beamer
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Apr 11, 2007, 9:28 AM

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Almost every war that has been fought has been fought over religion. So take all those out. Thats what the world would be like.

We'd have a lot more people "sinning" too though.

But God exists simply because... She does.

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But God exists simply because... She does.
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because... She does.
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she?

EDIT: Don't most religions believe god is a he? What are you, a wiccan?

(lol no offense meant. jsut asking what religion u are, in a roundabout way)


A guy would not have that much to say. If god was a he the Bible would be about 3 pages long.



cloud ate noobs
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Apr 11, 2007, 9:37 AM

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I agree!


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Athlon XP
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Apr 11, 2007, 11:41 AM

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A guy would not have that much to say. If god was a he the Bible would be about 3 pages long.
Stop quoting comedians.

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EDIT: Don't most religions believe god is a he? What are you, a wiccan?
God created male and female, thus there was no male and female before that point, thus God has no gender.

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Dr. Funk
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Apr 11, 2007, 11:50 AM

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Yeah it really depends on whether you believe a god exists or not in the first place.

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neocloud101
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Apr 11, 2007, 11:51 AM

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God created male and female, thus there was no male and female before that point, thus God has no gender. Or, if he does, it's certainly not one in our universe.
I have to agree with this. Men and women are earthly physical states, so God can be neither.

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Athlon XP
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Apr 11, 2007, 11:52 AM

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Oh wait. But if you're a Trinitarian then God is Jesus, who's a dude.

Crap.

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neocloud101
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Apr 11, 2007, 12:05 PM

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Though I don't even believe in Jesus, I still say, that doesn't disprove it. God could've just chosen that form, as God would have to choose one or the other.

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Beamer
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Apr 11, 2007, 10:56 PM

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A guy would not have that much to say. If god was a he the Bible would be about 3 pages long.
Stop quoting comedians.
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(This post was edited by Beamer on Apr 11, 2007, 10:57 PM)


TazG
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Apr 12, 2007, 12:29 AM

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Then "where" did he live? Your hypothesis contradicts itself. How is this message received?
The time he spent when "it" existed was spent creating the earth, or something. It was only half a nano-second, he did not have to be anywhere, he could have been on the earth.
The message was received by astroid, use your imagination.
Oh? How could he be on Earth while creating it? You're asking what if there was proof that there is nothing supernatural - and apparently the only way for that proof to be received is through supernatural means. You contradict yourself. If you were a good scientist you'd know that you can only prove what exists, and never prove that anything does not exist. Natural science by definition does not consider anything supernatural. People come to these conclusions individually. You can't ask this question - what you're really getting at is "what if you concluded that he didn't exist" - but then your question answers itself, doesn't it?

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Jindrak
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Apr 12, 2007, 3:25 AM

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If you believe in God, you believe God created everything.
If God didn't exist, nothing would exist. At all.


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Some people call me Maurice
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loner
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Apr 12, 2007, 5:36 AM

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If you believe in God, you believe God created everything.
If God didn't exist, nothing would exist. At all.
The question on this debate is kind of vague, because of people's different statuses on religion and other things.

But if people theoretically didn't believe in a God, I believe that our society might be far more advanced in terms of knowledge and such, but in a completely different kind of way.
Everyone knows that certain decisions and events in history shape and mold the future. With that, hopefully everyone knows that religion is a huge part of life, be it in the early historic periods to today.
If there was nothing for us humans to believe in in terms of a God, I really think that it would be nearly impossible to project what our current situation would be, but it would definitely be much different than today.

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Athlon XP
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Apr 12, 2007, 5:53 AM

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Though I don't even believe in Jesus, I still say, that doesn't disprove it. God could've just chosen that form, as God would have to choose one or the other.
True, I was thinking about that on my way to school this morning.

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Outlaws
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Apr 22, 2007, 12:13 PM

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If god was real you would have seen him by now.
In fact some people have seen god already, those people have also spotted big foots.
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Apr 23, 2007, 11:37 AM

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If God doesn't exist, then many humans wasted countless hours of their time, created hundreds of incorrect arguments, made themselves look like jackasses for no reason, etc.

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Jindrak
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Apr 23, 2007, 11:50 AM

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Wouldn't be the first time.


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Some people call me Maurice
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