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Moonraven
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May 20, 2006, 2:47 PM

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http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon.php

no one can deny this video....

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Aroy004
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May 20, 2006, 2:48 PM

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Denied.

I can.

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Moonraven
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May 20, 2006, 2:58 PM

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hahahahaha.......u cant really deny it without proof...show me some proof that this video is lying.....i bet u didnt even watch the video

-arent u supposed to b banned-

pwnt

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Shinjoiu
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May 20, 2006, 3:07 PM

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Show me proof it ISNT lying. All you did is give a video.

Chupa chups
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May 20, 2006, 3:09 PM

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Hmm a cover up then, so that the US could invade Iraq. But what i dont get is the other attacks all clearly were planes, and had terrorist pilots.

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Invidious
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May 20, 2006, 3:16 PM

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That plane was flying 500+ MPH. At that speed anything would have been disintegrated.

Then there's the heat, the heat from the fuel would've melted everything.

As for the intact stuff? If you give me the schematics I could work out on paper the point of impact, the shock, the aftershock and I could also prove that there are many "Still-Pockets" where almost no damage would be delt.

As for the disappearance?
Perhaps you didn't consider that maybe it was flying UNDER RADAR?

It would've had to be hugging the ground at about 150-200 feet(Pretty hard to do but still quite possible)

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Chupa chups
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May 20, 2006, 3:22 PM

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Hmm yes but the pilots would have had to be pretty good to do that stunt. And it explained the pilots could hardly fly.

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Invidious
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May 20, 2006, 3:25 PM

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And the reliability of those quotes?

Those people said that AFTER they learned of the 9/11 attack. They learned they were terrorists THEN made that statement. Would they say "Oh he was a great pilot" to a terrorist that killed 3000+ people?

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Chupa chups
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May 20, 2006, 3:26 PM

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Yeah your right they wouldnt say it to the public.

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Moonraven
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May 20, 2006, 3:28 PM

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consider the size of the hole they captured on video , it was way to smalll to actually be a boeing 757 ....even if everything melted and disintegrated the hole is stall to small... ....not to mention the aircraft flew straight into the pentagon...it s damn near impossible for a 757 to make that sort of angel adjustment at 500+ mph and 150-200 feet off the ground.

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Invidious
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May 20, 2006, 3:39 PM

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A 757 and a jet fighter have more in common than you realize, infact, it's easier to fly a 757 closer to the ground, they're commercial aircraft, not military, meaning there's more going towards being economical and comfortable, not to mention safer and easier to fly.

A fighter jet on the other hand is aerodynamicaly unstable, that's why they're so manuverable. Flying them is much harder than a flight sim or a flying a commercial jet. Under minimal power a commercial jet could make a crash landing of somewhat safe scale, however a fighter jet immediatly starts to tumble and flip the moment the pilot loses control.

As for the hole? Again, you're talking about an object traveling at 500+ MPH. And how long is that thing? Imagine that 100+ foot steel bar crashing into a building, and since it's a reinforced building made out of strong materiels the wings and the outer airframe would be disintegrated first. It would protect the main fuselage which would go on crashing through walls.

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wakka
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May 20, 2006, 4:05 PM

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ummm i dont belive this,too not real like...

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May 20, 2006, 4:06 PM

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pwnt

Huh?

Eat lightning, shit thunder.

Moonraven
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May 20, 2006, 4:10 PM

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becasue of the bulky size of a 757 it would take more time than they (going at 500+ mph) to make the descent to drop out of radar then to fly only 2 feet off the ground at 530mph...the only other 2 aircrafts that could make that kinda drop would be a fighter jet which is still very unlikly and a missle which has more control and manuverabilty,..the size seemed much smaller than a boeing 757 on the security camera

also think about the other plane crashes they showed.....that plane didnt leave anything damaged but the pentagon...even if the wings and tail disintegrated there would have been at least the center airframe left....airplane crashes leave wreckage, but none was found at the pentagon

what about the object that was hidden under the tarp while they were carrying it away... i doubt that those few people could have lifted the rest of the plane by themselves like that

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Ninja_X!
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May 20, 2006, 4:12 PM

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i think its F-A-K-E
and george bushh farted, thats why

I object! That was.. erm... objectionable!

Invidious
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May 20, 2006, 4:18 PM

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Fact: The larger the size of a wing, the easier it is to fly, it's much easier to maintain a altitude of something around 150-200 feet.

Sudden drops in altitude would be dangerous with an aircraft of that size but there's nothing to suggest that anything of the sort happened.

The thing on the security camera? That was too low-quality to see. Besides the fact that fast moving objects do ineed look much smaller than the real thing.

As for the main fuselage? Again, it was traveling at 500+ MPH, the fuselage is what created the "perfect" hole. The "perfect" whole is also quite logical, not an oddity as anything flying straight would creat a even crash pattern.

The other airplane crashes they showed were ones that were not deliberate, meaning the pilot would've tried to make a crash landing. Wreckages were there because:

1. The pilots reduced their velocity.

2. The damage was spread out.

3. They aren't head-on collisions.

Ever watch the World Trade Centre tape? Notice how there isn't much wreckage? Notice how some of the craft actually goes through the bulding?

Again, there was not much left to "lift". As for stuff uncer tarp?(Although I have not seen it) Wouldn't it be logical to assume they're human bodies recovered from the building?

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Chupa chups
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May 20, 2006, 5:10 PM

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But the whole was like perfect! And it was small as well.

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Moonraven
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May 20, 2006, 5:18 PM

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Sudden drops in altitude would be dangerous with an aircraft of that size but there's nothing to suggest that anything of the sort happened.

well seeing as how it said that the aircraft was flying 2 feet above ground....any kind of drop took place...becasue i know to get over the highway it must have been well over 2 feet

there would still be remains of the plane after it crashed but there was nothing of the sort...the fuselage couldnt have disintegrated becasue it created the holes but there wasnt any piece of the plane there so where did it go...it certainly didnt just vanish

the World Trade Center had to much rubble to actually find much of a plane especially after it callapsed

ur right that it could be something completely different about whats under the tarp

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(This post was edited by Moonraven on May 20, 2006, 5:19 PM)

Chupa chups
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May 20, 2006, 5:19 PM

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they still found bits of plane after the World trade center collapsed.

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Moonraven
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May 20, 2006, 5:23 PM

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i know they found something ... i said they couldnt find much of it though

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Chupa chups
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May 20, 2006, 5:24 PM

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Oh OK.

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Invidious
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May 20, 2006, 6:48 PM

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But the whole was like perfect! And it was small as well.

I said before, take any object with a geometrically symetrical shape and ram it through something at a 90degree angle. You will get a perfectly even shape.

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Invidious
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May 20, 2006, 6:53 PM

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How the hell would anyone know that it was flying 2 feet off of the ground? That's just rough speculation, random ponderings or just complete bullshit.

Notice how far the holes go? If the momentum and the inertia remaining in the fuselage could carry it that far would've left PLENTY of room for further disintegration.
Fire a bullet at some wax, what happens? A big round perfect hole, but only very small shards of bullet.

Things do "just vanish". Here's something you can try at home. Take a cracker of some sort and ram it through a bar of soft soap or hard cheese. What you should get is a bunch of crumbs and a hole in whatever object you rammed it through.

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(This post was edited by Invidious on May 20, 2006, 6:54 PM)

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May 20, 2006, 7:03 PM

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Things do "just vanish". Here's something you can try at home. Take a cracker of some sort and ram it through a bar of soft soap or hard cheese. What you should get is a bunch of crumbs and a hole in whatever object you rammed it through.

to be honest the video WAS fake and invidious' point is very good

Read the post first and the sig will make sense

moonshadow
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May 20, 2006, 7:28 PM

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Wait a minute. You are saying that the plane just vanished? If you take a look at the five photographs that they show and you see the little object heading for the wall, on photograph 4 the object they show is really small. Sorry, but there is no way in hell a 757 is going to shrink to that size, leave a hole that small, with no ground damage. Sounds like to me someone is trying to cover this up woth a massive load of butsecks.

(First time I have ever said the word "butsecks." And now I cannot stop myself.)

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