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-Pwnt-
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Jun 27, 2008, 12:20 PM

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How would a person go about securing their site from the danger of a DDoS attack?

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the ace
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Jun 27, 2008, 1:08 PM

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http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk59/technologies_white_paper09186a0080174a5b.shtml

http://www.computerworld.com/securitytopics/security/story/0,10801,94014,00.html

Thanks Google! Wink

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yourISP.
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Jun 27, 2008, 3:09 PM

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DDoS and Dos are different things and work on different principles.

Use filters (usually integrated into routers) that can recognize and ignore ping floods, and SYN attacks...etc. Most already do to some extent. Keep unused ports closed, and update all services that access the network constantly. Including the OS, FTP, Web server...etc

In most cases there really isnt much you can do against these attacks.

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foke
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Jun 28, 2008, 4:51 AM

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What is DDoS?Blush

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[|P-S|]
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Jun 28, 2008, 4:57 AM

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What is DDoS?Blush

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the ace
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Jun 28, 2008, 5:16 AM

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What is DDoS?
DDoS stands for Distributed Denial of Service Attack. The basic goal of a DDoS attack is to cut you (the user) off from the content/resources on the server which you are trying to access, usually by flooding the server with bogus requests so that it has trouble responding to actual users. The end result is usually a severe slowdown, or a complete stoppage of normal server function.

Its very, very, annoying.

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(This post was edited by the ace on Jun 28, 2008, 7:50 AM)



-Pwnt-
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Jun 28, 2008, 6:58 AM

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And almost gay enough for me to beat your ass.

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the ace
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Jun 28, 2008, 7:49 AM

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And almost gay enough for me to beat your ass.
Hmm, okay then.

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yourISP.
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Jun 28, 2008, 8:59 AM

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DoS Stands for Denial-Of-Service.

DoS attacks are launched from a single client and used to bring down or limit the efficiency of a service running on a target machine. This is achieved by simply flooding the service with junk and garbage data, causing the service to not respond (or respond slower) to legitamate requests. Another method is to exploit a vulnerability in the targeted service (which when sent to the application layer) would cause a buffer overflow and/or a complete crash of the service or the entire operating system.

These types of attacks can be easily prevented by updating any services that access the network to reduce threat of exploitation.

DDoS Stands for Distributed-Denial-Of-Service

Although their main goal is the same, DDoS attacks vary greatly from DoS attacks. They are launched from multiple (usually hundreds) of different clients against one target machine. These clients (drones) are usually compromised machines that are all controlled by a single client (the attacker's), this is also known as a BotNet. At will the attacker can send a command to each drone telling it to launch an attack against a target.

They do not work by exploiting the service, but simply flood it with junk data. With hundreds of machines sending junk data at once, the target service will be unable to respond to legitamate requests and will cease to function efficiently until the attack has ended.

DDoS attacks are harder to prevent as updating the target service will not help. Having strong routers/filters to deal with the attack is usually the best way to keep your server running until the attack is finished.

So there.

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Sneep
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Jun 29, 2008, 4:16 PM

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I remember when you took credit for my DoSing of FGF.

Fun times.

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yourISP.
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Jun 29, 2008, 4:49 PM

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That wasn't nearly enough refreshing to even be considered a DoS. I swear i thought jammer was kidding.

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Dr. Funk
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Jun 30, 2008, 1:25 AM

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If you're protecting a site - and, presumably, this site is being stored on a shared hosting service, and all these fuckwits in this thread rambling about routers, and saying what DDoS is just to show how big their balls are aren't actually helping at all unless you administrate the server - the most viable solution would be to contact your ISP if you're genuinely paranoid, and see what DDoS protection services they offer. Any host worth their seed will have some form of hardware DDoS protection. In some cases mod_dosevasive on Apache is offered as an optional package per special request but it doesn't work nearly as well as hardware protection.

If your host has no protection from DDoS, they really, really suck, and I'd strongly advise looking into getting a new host. Good web hosts - not GoDaddy, GoDaddy is crap, stay away from those assholes. 1&1, too - will typically have, as Matviy so articulately and elaborately explained above, "a strong router/filter."

Naturally, a commercial web host generally has more than just one router.

Or if you'd prefer to take the "but-im-catatonic-and-cant-talk-to-people-on-the-phone" approach, you could just be a retard like Jammer and throw a 403 Forbidden after too many simultaneous requests and break your site's search half the time.

TIME FOR SEX

(This post was edited by Dr. Funk on Jun 30, 2008, 1:31 AM)


Papa Smurf™
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Jun 30, 2008, 1:29 AM

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you could just be a retard like Jammer and throw a 403 Forbidden after too many simultaneous
i suggest jammer make the 403 error have a picture or something

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Sneep
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Jun 30, 2008, 1:44 AM

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That wasn't nearly enough refreshing to even be considered a DoS. I swear i thought jammer was kidding.
True.

I got an official warning for that.

Than my acc got deleted because I berated Jammer.

Then I got another official warning for posting my dong.



Jammer loves me really.

"yeah I wouldn't ban them from here even if I could. It's like old General vs. new General. We'll see which one turns out better right guys?" - TazG on XBC vs General



Pedobear
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Jun 30, 2008, 6:53 AM

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That wasn't nearly enough refreshing to even be considered a DoS. I swear i thought jammer was kidding.
True.

I got an official warning for that.

Than my acc got deleted because I berated Jammer.

Then I got another official warning for posting my dong.



Jammer loves me really.
What if we post a picture of your dong?


(This post was edited by Pedobear on Jun 30, 2008, 6:53 AM)


Sneep
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Jun 30, 2008, 7:32 AM

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That wasn't nearly enough refreshing to even be considered a DoS. I swear i thought jammer was kidding.
True.

I got an official warning for that.

Than my acc got deleted because I berated Jammer.

Then I got another official warning for posting my dong.



Jammer loves me really.
What if we post a picture of your dong?
He deletes your account.

"yeah I wouldn't ban them from here even if I could. It's like old General vs. new General. We'll see which one turns out better right guys?" - TazG on XBC vs General



Jammer
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Jul 2, 2008, 12:07 AM

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lol @ funk - I am now apparently a retard for doing what he advises other people do in his post....

if(logic==0){postlikeyougotapair()}

Anyone posting obscene (as judged by me) material will have account deleted.

Press any key to abort! Any other key to continue

(This post was edited by Jammer on Jul 2, 2008, 12:08 AM)


Heix
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Jul 2, 2008, 12:47 AM

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What?



luffy 747
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Jul 2, 2008, 4:38 AM

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hahahaha now someone he many listen to tells him he is an idiot.

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